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You may get tired of seeing me here LOL Getting toddler to sleep earlier??
opaloctober wrote in parenting101
So i've just not built a schedule around DD and I's day, based on what it's like already. I have a few questions though, that I thought this comm. could help me with, since you've all been so great with other issues.
Normally, DD goes to bed at 10:30pm (WAY too late in my opinion) and sleeps through the night until 8am-8:30. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the time she wakes up, but I want her to take her little butt to bed around 8:30pm, so her daddy and I can get some much needed sleep! LOL Also, she's taken to taking later naps, which I don't like. She waits until she's just dog tired and inconsolable before she'll take a nap like she did earlier. It can't be good for her to get that tired? She used to go down for a nap between 12 and 1pm, and sleep for maybe 2 hours, and wake up around 3, whereas now she wants to go to sleep around 3 or 4 and that is just not cool, because then she goes to bed later! How can I get her to start napping earlier, and going to bed earlier?


FWIW,
Here is our modified daily M-F schedule. On weekends her granny (my mom keeps her on Fri and Sat nights):


Mon - Fri Schedule for Taryn and Me
8:30 AM - Wake Up; Taryn has a 8oz bottle with vitamins
9:30 - 10AM - Breakfast: Scrambled eggs, sausage/friend weiners, fruit, and cereal/yogurt
10:30 AM - Pick up in living room & kitchen; wipe down counters & sweep
12:00 AM - Lunch (Things like small pieces of ravioli, mac and cheese, chicken pieces, cut up hotdogs, cheese cubes, crackers, cut up bananas, heted up summer sausage, toasted cheese sandwich bites, or almond butter and apple spread sandwich bites.)
Get Taryn dressed after lunch.
1:00 PM - Naptime
3:00 PM - Taryn wakes up and has a 8-ounce bottle of formula without vitamins. Pick up and vacuum livingroom.
4:00 PM - Laundry
5:00 PM - Pick up bedroom & mop bathroom
6:00 PM - Watch Nick Jr, small snack.
6:30 PM - Vacuum house.
7:00 PM - Dinner. Taryn eats what we eat plus 2 capri suns.
8:00 PM - Dishes done.
8:30 PM - Taryn has a 8oz bottle with vitamins, a bath, and gets her jammies on and ready for bed.
9:00 PM - Time for my meds, then lights out, and Taryn's bedtime.
9:30 PM - Cuddle with hubby and watch our shows before bedtime.

It looks like you don't really DO anything. Yes, I realize cleaning the house is something, but there's no activities in there for your daughter. You'd probably have better luck getting her to nap earlier if she did something to tire her out in the morning. Park time, a mom's group, story times. Anything really. From the looks of this schedule, she just watches you clean all day long. No wonder she's not that tired after lunch.

That said, my son gets tired out all the time and when he needed his nap moved later, I just dropped it entirely and moved bedtime up. I'm not into the battle to get him to nap at a "proper" time and if he sleeps at 4pm when he's tired, he won't go to bed until midnight. So he doesn't get a nap. I spend from 4pm to 6:30 keeping him awake with activities and then he goes to bed.

Totally agree with your comment.

One side bit though, my family runs errands sometimes but during the day we're taking advantage of the fact that my husbands schedule allows him to finish working just in time to see the kids wake up, at least for the next month of so. If we wrote down our schedule it would look similarly boring but maybe she isn't writing in the parts about playing, I hope? I have three kids and between the year and a half year old, two and a half year old, and the five year old, there is a lot of chasing and rumbling and playing and tickling.

Also this user tends to post things that, inevitably, will cause some kind of awkwardness or drama. From wedding communities to pregnancy ones to, I believe even here, there is a lot of eyebrow raising...

Yeah, I'm familiar with our friend here.

Oh, sorry then! I didn't mean to sound condescending or patronizing, just warning is all.

I see, you're right. My hubby puts a lot of emphasis on housework so I guess that's why I do too. Once I have this baby and aren't so mierable, and then get back on my feet, we can start our morning stroller walks again like we did before I got pregnant! :)

She's two (well, will be). Ditch the stroller. She can walk and it will tire her out more.

Not to be a putz, but taking walks can make you really feel better while pregnant. It's decent exercise and your daughter would probably really enjoy stretching her legs too! While you've still just got one hand to hold you could take advantage of the alone time together.

10:30 to 8:30 seems, to me, to be ample sleeping time for an adult, especially if your mom takes your daughter two nights out of the week.

We moved our daughter's bedtime up by starting her bedtime routine earlier. Keep in mind, moving bedtime up will probably result in her waking up earlier to, so pick your battle wisely.

If you cut out her nap and entertain her and run her ragged at the evening time, she'll go to bed earlier. She might wake up earlier, but that's the consequences of muddling with bedtimes. Are you playing a lot with her during the day to get energy out? Having playdates? Running errands or getting out for walks? What age is your daughter, also? That's a big deal of difference as well.

My kids are in bed by 7pm, asleep by 7:15pm...but they are also up anytime after 6am. Sometimes they're up earlier than 6am, but I try my hardest to enforce no going downstairs until atleast 6am. So an earlier bedtime could defintiely mean an earlier wake up time.

And what is Taryn doing while your cleaning? Does she have playmates to interact with or activities to do? I definitely understand there being housework to do...though I don't seem to do as much as you do everyday, but my kids keep busy and that seems to help with their naps and bedtime.

A few suggestions that could help adjust her schedule a little bit:

-get her dressed before breakfast. Getting her dressed right after lunch and then expecting her to be ready for naptime is unrealistic; she just got 'ready'. If she's been ready for hours, she's more likely to feel ready for naptime.

-find an activity for her every morning for at least an hour. Two or three hours is probably better. The activity can rotate. Some of our favorites include: walking to the park and playing, children's museum, zoo, swim lessons, monkey bizness (indoor children's play place), butterfly pavillion, library (most have children's activities or story time for free).

-establish a nap time routine similar to her bedtime routine (read books with a small lamp on, change diaper, maybe put on jammies, tuck her in, whatever works at night time, but an abbreviated version.

-cut out the 2 Capri suns at dinner. That's a lot of extra sugar right before your new proposed bedtime, and sugar can effect kids much more than adults (especially high fructose corn syrup). Some children also get hyper when they ingest artificial colorings, which Capri sun likely has. Stick to water or milk at dinner time.

-set aside some afternoon time for interactive play with her instead of letting her play alone while you clean- puzzles, play 'cooking', sensory bins, playing ball, coloring/painting... Pinterest has thousands of ideas for toddler activities that are really easy.

-try to rework your cleaning schedule. Instead of scheduling laundry, vacuuming, sweeping, mopping, etc. every day (which will likely burn you out and be fairly unnecessary anyway), schedule a 'cleaning time' (during and after nap/during tv time could be perfect. Make a weekly rotating schedule that works for your family. Maybe laundry is Monday and Thursdays. Vacuuming Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday. Wiping down surfaces and bathrooms on Wednesday and Saturday. Whatever works for you. Then, you aren't spending your entire day having Taryn watch you clean and being bored.

Hope that helps!

Thanks! I'm on pinterest so I will check those ideas out! I was an only child, and don't have many friends, so i'm not exposed to a lot of children and neither is Taryn, unfortunately. I will have to get some more ideas!

The park or the library are good ways to get her to interact with other children for free. Plus, then the children wear each other out, and you don't have to try so hard to wear her out, which I know is difficult between your pregnancy and medical conditions.

All children benefit from interaction and play time with other kids. At her age, they wot really play together exactly, but parallel play is important.

Getting out of the house is super important, too. She has a ton of energy to burn.

If your husband is so concerned about the household chores getting done every day, he needs to take a role in helping with them. But, I know we've been down that path before, and its not likely to happen.

"cut out the 2 Capri suns at dinner. That's a lot of extra sugar right before your new proposed bedtime, and sugar can effect kids much more than adults (especially high fructose corn syrup). Some children also get hyper when they ingest artificial colorings, which Capri sun likely has. Stick to water or milk at dinner time."



THISSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

I was going to say the exact same thing!

Yep! If my daughter drank 2 capri suns, she'd be awake bouncing off the walls for 3 days.

AGREED! If going to give juice, give 1 and make it juicy juice or the like... JJ is 100% fruit juice so its the natural sugar vs the non in the capri sun.

If we could just blend our two children we'd be perfect! My 2 year old son has the opposite problem. He is in bed by 7:30 most night (by his choice, some nights he is begging to go to bed as early at 6 PM) but is up most mornings by 5:30 AM, some days as early as 4 AM. This morning he slept in until 7:15 and my husband are sitting here coming up with theories about how he got up in the middle of the night and played and we didn't hear him or something because he NEVER sleeps that late.

She'd sleep more without the excess sugar at night (my kids are 1 and nearly 2.5 and have ONLY ever had milk, breastmilk, or water... there is just no need for juice).

If your husband wants a clean house then he can help out. I am slightly familair with your previous posts, but you've chosen to stay with this person and if he can't see that your children need some sort of stimulation during the day then perhaps he needs a few days in your shoes. You don't need to vacuum and mop every single day unless you have a few animals.

Your daughter would be less tired if you spent more time playing with her and less time worrying about the house. The housework will always be there, and if you tired her out more by giving her something to do she'd sleep and you could clean. Or, you know, relax a little before #2 arrives.

There's a lot to be said about having a supportive husband/partner. If I were you I'd work more on creating a partnership with him than getting his list of chores done, but that's just me.

And I'm sorry if that sounded harsh. It just really irks me when people who are not the ones staying at home dictate how the home should be ran. You don't tell him how to do his work, do you? It's the same thing.

Also, you get 2 nights off a week? I haven't had a night (or day... or more than 4 hours...) off since my first was born! Why can't the housework get mostly done on the weekends?

You're about to have 2 children. One child can be a handful. Two is a balancing act, every day. God Bless those who have more, I don't know how they do it. And if you want any chance at successful breastfeeding this time the only way it will work is with a 100% on board supportive partner (or a mom, or a friend...).

All of this, too.

It's been said before, but maybe eventually, it'll sink in.

That, or Kristina should have her husband make a post here. We could all set him straight reallll quick ;)

A few suggestions and questions. :) First, there's no physical activity time. I don't see outside time either. Both are important. Second, isn't she 20 months? Might be time to start cutting out bottles. Also, I noticed a lack of veggies and/or fruits. Third, capri suns especially at night are no good. Replace those with water. Fourth, can you add in a quiet transitional nighttime activity like read books and then bed? Might help prepare her for bed. Fifth, why is she getting dressed after lunch? Is she in jammies all morning long? That might also throw off her schedule and whatnot.

Anyhow, you've gotten good comments all over this post. Best of luck.

let her play more, and give her less sugar, and way more fruits/veggies. there's no need for all that juice, and she's old for that many bottles.. at 20 months, my son had a bottle of whole milk at nap, and another at bed.

when my son is bored, he doesn't want to sleep. Only recently (my son is turning 2 on Wednesday) has he started actually staying up past 7 on the regular... before, his usual bedtime was 6:30-645, and he was up for daycare at 7am, and he wasn't even happy about waking up at that time, he would have been content to sleep in til 730-8a.

Shes underweight, and drinks prescription formula. I agree about the veggies though. The only ones I can get her to eat is avocado. We love it.

I'd consider what the amount of juice she's consuming is doing to her weight. It looks as if she's filling up on drink and therefore not consuming enough food. As many have mentioned the sugar is probably having a negative impact on her sleeping.

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