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Daycare question..

So as we all now know, I'm going to be getting a job and getting out of this house pronto. But I have a question about daycare.

I am going to be using EC with my son as soon as I learn his signals, if I don't have a job before then, and I'm wondering does anybody know if daycare will even try to do EC with the babies if a parent tells them they use EC? Or are they totally clueless when it comes to EC? Also, my 3 year old is not yet fully potty trained, maybe halfway potty trained. Do they require children to be potty trained at a certain age? I have heard of some parents having difficulties with daycare and their not yet potty trained toddlers. Stuff like they would punish the child for wetting his/her pull up or diaper or panties, won't let the child wear a pull up or diaper, stuff like that. Do all daycares do that? Or just some? Because I really don't want my daughter being punished for something she cannot help. My middle child is 22 months, and yet another question, do they try to potty train the kids? Or, for that matter, try to force children that aren't potty trained TO potty? I want to potty train my kids based on when they are ready, not age based. So knowing this stuff is vital. Thanks in advance. :)

Edit (10:57PM): I also don't want the daycare teaching my children. Is there a way to tell them not to teach my children the stuff they usually teach them? Basically, all I want the daycare to do is watch my kids and play with them. I'm the only one allowed to teach my children anything, ever. Scratch the teaching part, I'll let the evil daycare people do whatever they want with my kids, as long as it doesn't involve Dora, Diego, or Barney. Those I forbid my kid watching or listening to. But, in similar vein, can I at least request that they not learn the pledge? I disagree with the pledge, and really I don't consider it important to pledge to an inanimate useless piece of cloth.

Oh, and does anybody have a link to a non-Christian religious vaccine exempt form for the state of South Carolina for my son? He doesn't have his vaccines, and will not ever be getting them, at least not until he's 2, and then it's on my schedule not theirs.

Edit 2(11:50PM): Before I forget, is there a way to go about telling them your son is intact and you don't want him ever being retracted without sounding offensive, and making sure they know that you want everybody that's in contact with your son to know that? I'm usually shy around people, and as such tend to sound offensive when I do manage to get something out.

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macabre
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:43 am (UTC)
I would say it would depend on the daycare. Find what daycares are in your area and ask them these questions.
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:47 am (UTC)
Never thought of that..lol. Thanks.
babygoose85
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:46 am (UTC)
The only time I've ever seen a kid punished as far as going potty in their pants in daycare was when the kid was fully potty trained and did it deliberately (not me, I was with the babies). Also the subject of EC never came up but considering at least in my state its one adult for 5 babies I don't know if they'd make the effort, possibly if it was a higher end daycare. I don't see them trying to force your daughter to be potty trained, I'm sure they'll make an effort to try to let her go potty by taking her to the potty and trying to let her go but I don't think they would force her to go. You're going to have to do some serious touring of daycares, also a lot of background checking on them such as turnaround and if there will be the same person consistently watching your kids versus a rotating person on different days.
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:51 am (UTC)
Thanks. I don't even do that, I just ask her if she has to potty, if she nods in response I take her to the potty and ask her if she wants to potty on the potty, if she nods I'll set her on it and encourage her. Again, I'll call and ask around, most of the time they don't mind calls. Especially since most require appointments to do a tour anyways.
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mamiesgoo
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:48 am (UTC)
You use EC but want to wait until they are ready?


They will introduce the potty to the kid at a certain age, I do know that. And have one available, and take regular potty breaks to try. Both daycares I've worked with did.
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:53 am (UTC)
That's only with Kevin, because he's really young. It's not forcing him to potty really, it's just using his signals and determining when he has to potty, and putting a potty underneath him. I think babies are potty trained, and I believe that. But in a child that has only worn diapers? That's different, you have to get them away from the diapers to potty train them, and wait until they show signs of being ready to get away from diapers.

Thanks. My daughter knows what the potty is, and what it's there for, and she will once in a while take her diaper off and climb on it to pee. Other times I ask if she needs to potty, and ask if she wants to potty on the potty, and if she nods to either then I set her on the potty.
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lykomgz
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:55 am (UTC)
I used to volunteer at a daycare. All the programs they offered required the children to be potty trained. Not all places are the same though, so it would be a good idea to research the places you are interested in :)
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 03:57 am (UTC)
What age were they required to be potty trained by?
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techdragon
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:02 am (UTC)
I would ask the daycare on the older kids especially. At the one my kids are in... in order to be moved to the "Panda Bear / Kitty Cat Room" which is for 5-6 year old, they HAD to be potty trained. It was meant as a sign they were ready for school - they got to go on longer field trips and do more big kid stuff. No diaper were allowed in the room but the teacher (in the other rooms such as the Ducks (3-4 year olds) really helped the kids learn. They took them at regular times and also when ever the kids would ask. They strove to make it part of the daily routine.

About EC... I doubt it. Most centers can't take that much time on one child - especially with a 4 to 1 ratio (which is above the legal standards and of which my daycare had for infants).
techdragon
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:06 am (UTC)
My eldest was potty trained by three years old - I didn't start till he was 2.5 years old and we were able to sit down and talk about it. He understood and made his own decision to get potty trained. Diapers were out of the house by the time he was three.

My youngest was potty trained closer to 4 but that was because he was getting treatment for leukemia - he spent a lot of time in the hospital on fluids and so it was so so so! much easier to still have him in diaper (for both him and for me).

To each their own... but it is a skill that has to be taught. Each kid does it differently.

My niece was never really pushed to be potty trained and unfortunately she still wets the bed at 11. She is very embarrassed about it and therefore has never stayed a night a a friend's house. She is now on medication to help her.
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ex_thexphial147
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:03 am (UTC)
No daycare will deal with EC. They don't have the time to do so. And EC is less important than getting your children and yourself out of that situation.
ex_thexphial147
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:06 am (UTC)
RE: Your edit
Children in child cares are going to learn from whoever is around. You can't control what they learn. Stop trying.
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justuschickens
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:07 am (UTC)
"I'm the only one allowed to teach my children anything, ever."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You poor, poor woman. Boy, is the world ever going to have some things to teach you -- whether it's allowed or not.
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:10 am (UTC)
I mean actually physically teach them while they are preschool and school-aged, not after that.
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newmom411
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:08 am (UTC)
Out of curiosity, why do you feel you should be the only one to teach your kids things?
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:11 am (UTC)
Honestly? Because I don't want anybody using methods I don't agree with. I teach them by songs and playing games. Not by workbooks, or any of that crap. And I know that's how daycares teach, I went to one until I was in school.
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mamiesgoo
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:09 am (UTC)
re:edit.

are you a troll? Honestly?


Your children will learn from things around them, unless you plan on sheltering them, which I by no means doubt at all.


But I do doubt you are real.
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:12 am (UTC)
I know they will learn from things around them, I'm talking about PHYSICALLY teaching them. Honestly, I'm not a troll, just a very concerned parent and I don't want my children learning by methods I don't agree with.
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Dec. 17th, 2007 04:11 am (UTC)
Okay, I have to ask. Just what do you NOT want your kids learning? Should they go sit silently in a corner if the rest of the kids are singing the ABCs? What about hand-washing? That's a skill that tends to be taught, as a group. Do you have any idea just how utterly ridiculous your idea is?
mamiesgoo
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:12 am (UTC)
NO SHOE TYING FOR YOUS.
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said_by_me
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:19 am (UTC)
No daycare I have ever heard of has the time to deal with EC. YMMV. Daycares do not require children to be potty trained, most pre-schools do. Everything in life is a learning experience and children are sponges. Get over it.
oni85
Dec. 17th, 2007 06:12 am (UTC)
what is E.C.? I feel dumb for asking but I am reading this post totally clueless about that. tia!
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ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:35 am (UTC)
Thanks.
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oh_sparks
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:20 am (UTC)
this is the most ridiculous nonsense i have seen in a long, long time.
valkynlu
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:25 am (UTC)
Vaccination Refusal: Complicated form here: http://www.vaclib.org/legal/refuselt.htm

Or you can simply do a:

To Whom It May Concern: My child, ___________, has not received/will not be receiving any vaccinations due to religious preferences. Thank you. Signed _______ (parent/guardian).

No need for them to know what religion you are (Christian or non-Christian).

Keep in mind that some daycares will not accept children that are not vaccinated. Company policy and what not. There are those that don't care as long as they have a form stating so.
ladygaia87
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:35 am (UTC)
Thanks.
justuschickens
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:36 am (UTC)
Just in case anyone misses this because it's buried in a discussion up there, the OP has said:

"They'll listen to my requests or I'll do whatever I can to make sure they lose the place, even if that means planting bugs in the building and calling DHEC. :)"

Seriously.

This is either a troll, or a mentally disturbed person, and I don't think we should be trying to help her out in finding daycares to illegally wiretap either way.
mamiesgoo
Dec. 17th, 2007 04:41 am (UTC)
this too.
ladygaia87
2007-12-17 04:21 am UTC (link)
*sigh* I just really don't like it. I don't want anybody but me being considered important to them. And I feel teaching them will make them feel like the teacher is just as important as mommy.
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